will work for doses wrote:


GD religion? I have two things to say. You are a spiritual seedling and Jerry is rolling in his grave.
The music as an ends to the mean or the means to the way; either way, viewing it as religion absolutely appalls me.

I don't worship the people who channel the music, I use the music as a reference to certain feelings and situations. I think you misunderstand what I mean. People who say things to insult others ideas, in my opinion, are spiritually void...

It's no different than people who use the bible, the koran, the torah, the vedas, etc. as a reference to ideas and situations in their lives. All these bodies of work are open to interpretation. I think you need to see the metaphors, not get hung up on dogmas..

Gordon the Drummer wrote:


Thanks again. some really great stuff there. I just watched at the inaugural ball and the NYC taxi tours vids. Both great.

I never even noticed the blue lights on Phils Bass (duh). I assume they've always been there????? (they are on the vid the dead at the inaugural ball

Religion is a strong word. Don't take it personally, it wasn't meant to be. Anybody who "would" worship the Dead are a bit lost IMO. Seriously, people have and do. Worship the ground, the air, the people sharing around you. I am very spiritual and know enough to realize that not everything goes. It's more than that, an informed observation, not a void. When I see the tool (music) being idolized, it DOES make me ill. My opinion, that's all.

scar1et_f1re wrote:


You're very welcome. That's Phil's very freaky "Eye of Horus" bass, which was used on the Dead '09 tour but I believe is now actually in the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History.

www.ritter-instruments.com/artist-series-phil-lesh.php

www.aspentimes.com/article/20120210/AE/1...p;ParentProfile=1058

During his time with the Grateful Dead, Phil Lesh never looked ahead to a time when there was no Grateful Dead. . . “I never gave it a moment's thought,” the 71-year-old said from California. “The Grateful Dead was eternal. It was a cosmic phenomenon.”

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Most significant in Lesh's view, the music is being handed over to other musicians. The membership of Phil & Friends has included singer-songwriter Ryan Adams, guitarist Derek Trucks, Black Crowes singer Chris Robinson, soul singer Joan Osborne and members of Phish, moe. and Little Feat. The song titles remain the same, but the playing of them evolves, and the catalog itself becomes like classical music or the Great American Songbook — something meant not just for the musicians who originally created it, but to live on, constantly being re-imagined.

“As far as it can be defined, I wanted to treat the music like repertory — bring in different musicians, allow them to read these songs, bring different perspectives to them, mix it up. Stretch them out, make them faster, slower,” Lesh said. “I guess you'd have to say my prime directive was to take it further.”

A few decades ago, it would have been a good bet that the Grateful Dead would go into sharp contraction once there was no Jerry Garcia to gravitate to, no Grateful Dead bus per se to jump on. But Lesh says the music was structured as a positive feedback loop — the music has sustained itself.

“I'm not surprised [at the continuing popularity] because the material lent itself to openness,” he said. “I think it was by design that we made music that could be extended and elaborated upon. It's not surprising that other people have taken hold of this and brought it to new dimensions. I find it very gratifying, actually.”

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I invited Lesh to look forward for a moment: Would the Grateful Dead's music last forever?

“With all the people who seem interested in playing this music, it's hard to tell,” he said. “But that said, everything fades away sooner or later. It's in god's hands, not for us to know.”

Gordon the Drummer wrote:


Yep again, I'm thinking Brian and Grahame could very well play important roles in the future of the Long Strange Trip.

Phil Lesh & Friends – 03/17/2012
Brian Lesh
Grahame Lesh
Chris Robinson
Jeff Chimenti
Jimmy Herring
Joe Russo
– Featuring special guests Bob Weir & Jackie Greene

I recently came across the following bit from a 1997 essay by Soni Petrovski, and it made me think that the GD members' original (Dec. 1995 to Nov. 1997, pre-Other-Ones) plans for continuing the "Long Strange Trip" into the post-Garcia era might all together finally be coming to realization in 2012:

issuu.com/soni.petrovski/docs/understand..._in_musical_analysis

The centrality and distinctiveness of Garcia's vision and personality within the band, opposable in some sense to those of the other band members, is illustrated in a recent article by David Gans, which describes projects of the remaining members after Garcia's death. These include the accelerated release of archival recordings and videos, a "Deadapalooza" tour, and the founding of a permanent gathering place in San Francisco where Deadheads can "recapture as much of that spirit as possible." Such plans are understandable, given that the rest of the band is alive, committed to making music, and central to such a large phenomenon (with its commercial, as well as musical and spiritual, forces). The Grateful Dead, Mickey Hart noted, "has been our home for our whole adult lives," and Weir comments that "I'm doing what I believe he [Garcia] would have me doing: bringing music to people" (David Gans, "Dead End," Rolling Stone, 25 Jan. 1996: 23-24).

The "Deadapalooza" part looks like it is being revived this year at Wanee, All Good, and possibly GOTV and other festivals. And with Phil bringing lots of younger musicians, including his sons, into Grateful Dead music, the basic spirit of the GD experience could still have some kind of life a long time from now.

Another idea that has come up recently is that some of the Grateful-Dead-themed summer music festivals like Gathering of the Vibes, Bear's Picnic, Dark Star Jubilee, etc. are (and/or will be) "carrying the torch" for the GD into the future. I think it's entirely possible that these events could still be happening 40 years from now:

www.billboard.com/news/gathering-of-the-...fan-1006635952.story

"It's a kindred spirit thing," Hart tells Billboard. "It feels very homey, very warm and fuzzy for us. After Jerry (Garcia) died, these people...didn't want the groove to stop, didn't want the vibe to stop, so they put this [Gathering of the Vibes festival] together over the years. The momentum built and now it's quite formidable. We feel a bit of responsibility to carry it on and help them and be a part of it and enjoy it with them. I really do none of the work for it, putting it on and everything, but I do support it, and I always look forward to playing it." [Vibes founder Ken] Hays adds that having the Dead members on board in any capacity adds meaning to the festival. "We're keeping the torch alive for them," Hays explains.

Gordon the Drummer wrote:


Swap out herring he plays on top of the music there is even a youtube where he says it is not the way he likes to play, i will take JKs playing any day and his vocal abilites are reason enough. I like herring but he is better in widespread

There's been buzz about bringing back artists who are, pardon the expression, dead, ever since rapper Tupac Shakur made a beyond-the-grave hologram appearance at last month's Coachella 2012.

Would Hart like to see Garcia's likeness on stage?

"I don't even want to contemplate that," he said, laughing. "If you want to have fun with something like that, I'd ask for that $50 he still owes me."

www.heraldnet.com/article/20120504/ENT/705049953

In my opinion, a Hologram Grateful Dead with Pigpen in 2052 would be preferable to a Hologram Jerry in 2012.

Gordon the Drummer wrote:



my sentiments exactly

I will be dead in 2052, but for those still alive have fun with whatever incarnation exists.

WOW, 5/8/77 is being inducted into the National Recording Registry. I'm proud of the Boyz, they deserve this kind of recognition.

www.naplesnews.com/news/2012/may/24/libr...-25-sounds-registry/

WASHINGTON — From rare audio interviews of former slaves to recordings by Donna Summer and the Grateful Dead, 25 sounds that shaped the American cultural landscape are being inducted into the National Recording Registry.

Summer's 1977 hit "I Feel Love" is joining the Grateful Dead's famous 1977 Barton Hall concert as sounds of cultural significance, among 25 additions that are being announced Wednesday by the Library of Congress as part of its registry.

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Blues singer Bo Diddley is being inducted to the sound registry, too, with "Bo Diddley" and "I'm a Man."

For Mickey Hart of the Grateful Dead, Diddley's sound was some of the first beats he learned as a little boy, he told the Associated Press. So he was thrilled that sounds of the Dead were being preserved at the same time.

Hart had a hand in helping create the sound registry, pushing for a law in Congress in 2000. He said he didn't lobby for his own music to be included this year, though he was letting other "lads" in the band know about the honor.

Their music will be represented with the 1977 Barton Hall concert at Cornell University, which has been cited as one of their best performances ever. The recording was hailed for its sound quality.

"The Grateful Dead just touched a nerve, and it's still relevant in many ways today," Hart told the AP. "It's American-based music, but the combination of it, I guess, was the chemical that ignited, the energy that ignited the spirit of the people for many generations."

One key choice they made was to allow fans to record their concerts live, rather than hiring guards to take away recorders. That helped build an army of "Dead heads," Hart said, because they could all take the experience they had paid for with them. And every concert was always different.

Hart said he is impressed with his fellow inductees in the library collection.

"These are not just songs," he said. "These are talking books — thousands of years of evolutions of cultures are in this music. It represents something even greater, the hopes, the dreams ... the joy, everything it takes to make up a people are embedded in this music."

List of 25 sounds saved by Library of Congress

Here's a listing of the 2011 inductees to the National Recording Registry in chronological order:

1. Edison Talking Doll cylinder (1888)

2. "Come Down Ma Evenin' Star," Lillian Russell (1912)

3. "Ten Cents a Dance," Ruth Etting (1930)

4. "Voices from the Days of Slavery," Various speakers (1932-1941 interviews; 2002 compilation)

5. "I Want to Be a Cowboy's Sweetheart," Patsy Montana (1935)

6. "Fascinating Rhythm," Sol Hoopii and his Novelty Five (1938)

7. "Artistry in Rhythm," Stan Kenton & and his Orchestra (1943)

8. Debut performance with the New York Philharmonic, Leonard Bernstein (November 14, 1943)

9. International Sweethearts of Rhythm: Hottest Women's Band of the 1940s (1944-1946)

10. "The Indians for Indians Hour" (March 25, 1947)

11. "Hula Medley," Gabby Pahinui (1947)

12. "I Can Hear It Now," Fred W. Friendly and Edward R. Murrow (1948)

13. "Let's Go Out to the Programs," The Dixie Hummingbirds (1953)

14. "Also Sprach Zarathustra," Fritz Reiner and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra (1954, 1958)

15. "Bo Diddley" and "I'm a Man," Bo Diddley (1955)

16. "Green Onions," Booker T. & the M.G.'s (1962)

17. "Forever Changes," Love (1967)

18. "The Continental Harmony: Music of William Billings," Gregg Smith Singers (1969)

19. "A Charlie Brown Christmas," Vince Guaraldi Trio (1970)

20. "Coat of Many Colors," Dolly Parton (1971)

21. "Mothership Connection," Parliament (1975)

22. Barton Hall concert by the Grateful Dead (May 8, 1977)

23. "I Feel Love," Donna Summer (1977)

24. "Rapper's Delight," Sugarhill Gang (1979)

25. "Purple Rain," Prince and the Revolution (1984)

Maybe 20 years from now Grahame Lesh could have a band with Kadlecik, Greene (on bass), Chimenti, Russo, Becker and Pehrson, and they could call it "Furthurmore."